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New in v9 is the Turbine Multiblock. This massive structure is used to produce power from the reactor that was introduced with v8.
The Industrial Turbine multiblock structure is used to produce power from steam. Ideally, the steam is generated by a fission reactor directly, or by heating up water in the [[Thermoelectric Boiler]] with superheated sodium produced by a fission reactor.
 
Another integral use of the structure is to turn steam back into water when outfitted with [[Saturating Condenser]]s, massively reducing the requirement on fresh water production by allowing you to reuse up to 100% of water.  


==Video Tutorials==
==Video Tutorials==
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* [[Turbine Valve]]
* [[Turbine Valve]]
* [[Structural Glass]] (Optional)
* [[Structural Glass]] (Optional)
* [[Saturating Condenser]] (Optional)


==Construction Notes==
==Construction Notes==
* Orientation can only be vertical (Unlike BR's turbine)
* Orientation can only be vertical.
* Length and Width (x,z) must be equal.
* Length and Width (x,z) must be equal (the base must be a square).
* Maximum shaft height = min(2xLENGTH-5,14) [so blades don't touch sides]
* Maximum shaft height = min(2xLENGTH-5,14) [so blades don't touch sides]
* Maximum total height = min(2xLENGTH-1,18)
* Maximum total height = min(2xLENGTH-1,18)
* Tank volume = LENGTH^2xROTOR_HEIGHT
* Tank volume = LENGTH^2xROTOR_HEIGHT
* Flow rate is determined by tank volume times dispersers (exact formula inside notes) or by vents - whichever is less. Each vent adds 32,000mB/t of flow rate, and each disperser can disperse 1,280mB/t of flow.
* Flow rate is determined by tank volume times dispersers (exact formula inside notes) or by vents - whichever is less. Each vent adds 32,000mB/t of flow rate, and each disperser can disperse 1,280mB/t of flow per block of interior volume.
* Energy production = FLOWxROTOR_HEIGHTx50RF/7
* Energy production = FLOWxROTOR_HEIGHTx50RF/7
* Because a taller rotor leaves less room for vents, sometimes heightening the rotor could reduce flow and, therefore, energy.
* 1 coil will support 4 blades. You'll never need more than 7 coils.
* 1 coil will support 4 blades. You'll never need more than 7 coils.
* Interior may ONLY be dispersers, coils, shaft, blades, rotational complex, or air.
* Interior may ONLY be pressure dispersers, coils, shaft, blades, rotational complex, saturating condensers or air.
* Multiblock will sparkle red on final block placement, otherwise check your assembly.
* Multiblock will sparkle redstone particles on final block placement, otherwise check your assembly.
* Minimal turbine size is 5x5 base with 5 blocks high.
* Minimal turbine size is 5x5 base with 5 blocks high.
* Maximum turbine size is 17x17 base with 18 blocks high.
* Maximum turbine size is 17x17 base with 18 blocks high.
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# Completely fill the interior layer around the rotational complex with pressure dispersers.
# Completely fill the interior layer around the rotational complex with pressure dispersers.
# Place electromagnetic coils above the dispersers. They must touch the rotational complex and each other.
# Place electromagnetic coils above the dispersers. They must touch the rotational complex and each other.
# Build the frame (the perimeters of the walls) out of turbine casings. (you may have more empty layers above the coils to make room for more vents)
# Build the wireframe (the perimeters of the walls) out of turbine casings (you may have more empty layers above the coils to make room for more vents and condensers).
# Fill the walls, up to the height of the rotor, with turbine casings and/or structural glass and at least 2 turbine valves.
# Fill the walls, up to the height of the rotor, with turbine casings and/or structural glass and at least 2 turbine valves.
# Put in saturating condensers anywhere above the rotational complex, except in the walls or the ceiling.
# Fill the remaining walls and ceiling with turbine casings and/or turbine vents.
# Fill the remaining walls and ceiling with turbine casings and/or turbine vents.
==Water Cycle==
By fitting the structure with saturating condensers, part of the steam will be refunded as water. This is highly helpful to maintain a net positive of water in a fission reactor system. Note that the water will be outputted from turbine vents instead of valves, and that the water is not accumulated: if nothing is connected, the condensed water simply disappears.
==Flow Rate==
* The "flow rate" is really an efficiency ratio: it measures how much of your turbine's maximum output you're actually getting. It can never be larger than 1.
* The actual maximum rate of steam flow (labeled MAX_RATE below) is limited by both the number of dispersers and the number of vents. Each vent can pass 32,000 mB/t; each disperser can disperse 1,280 mB/t *per block of interior volume*.
** "Interior volume" -- labeled `structure.lowerVolume` below -- means the inside volume of the rotor chamber. So if your base is 11x11 and you have 4 blocks of rotor shaft, then your interior volume is 9x9x4=324 blocks, and every disperser disperses 414,720 mB/t.
* The flow rate is the product of two numbers:
** The fill ratio of the turbine: (volume of steam)/(maximum volume of steam)
** The current rate of steam flow, as a fraction of MAX_RATE. Ideally this would just be 1, but you can't move more steam than is actually in your turbine -- so if (volume of steam) < MAX_RATE, you only get (volume of steam)/MAX_RATE.
* In addition, the actual energy gained per tick is capped by the energy storage of the turbine.
* As long as you have room to put the energy, the equation is just:
    GENERAL_DISPERSER_GAS_FLOW = 1280
    GENERAL_VENT_GAS_FLOW = 32000
   
    MAX_RATE = min(TURBINE_DISPERSER_COUNT * GENERAL_DISPERSER_GAS_FLOW * structure.lowerVolume, TURBINE_VENT_COUNT * GENERAL_VENT_GAS_FLOW)
    FLOW = min(1, TURBINE_STORED_AMOUNT / MAX_RATE) * (TURBINE_STORED_AMOUNT/TURBINE_MAX_STORED_AMOUNT) * MAX_RATE


==Miscellaneous Notes==
==Miscellaneous Notes==
* Compatible with oredict steam from other mods such as TE/TF/RC/MFR/Big Reactors.
* Compatible with oredict steam from other mods such as TE/TF/RC/MFR/Big Reactors.
* The marking of "Limiting" on the vents stat simply means that it is not "optimal ratio". You can have fewer down to your desired steam flow rate.
* The marking of "Limiting" on the vents stat simply means that it is not "optimal ratio". You can have fewer down to your desired steam flow rate.
* Turbine shuts down if internal battery fills with energy. It will restart automatically though you may also vent excess steam to prevent it from shutting down.
* Turbine shuts down if internal battery fills with energy. It will restart automatically though you may also vent excess steam to prevent it from shutting down. As a turbine is often a critical part of any fission reactor water cycle, it is best to secure a large power bank such as an [[Induction Matrix]] for large scale operations.
* A 5x5x8 turbine design will produce the exact same RF/t as the highest tiered turbine from Big Reactors with the same amount of steam.
* Exact formula to calculate the flowrate of your turbine - understanding is not necessary. Just fill the values and perform the commands:<br>
 
//Btw - NOTICE AND REMEMBER THIS:
//Math.min => Takes whatever is lower
//structure.lowerVolume is the INSIDE volume with the rotor [structure.volLength*structure.volWidth*turbineHeight] -> ["Hmm. If turbine is 8*8*18 this could be 7*7*ROTOR_HEIGHT[Only rotor shaft - no blades needed] (-> TurbineUpdateProtocol.java:172) and so on..."]
flowrate =
(
    Math.min(
        Math.min(
            TURBINE_STORED_AMOUNT ["How much steam is inside?"],
            ↑Math.min(
                structure.lowerVolume ["See comment above to understand this!"]
                *
                (
                    TURBINE_DISPERSER_COUNT*GENERAL_DISPERSER_GAS_FLOW
                ),
                TURBINE_VENT_COUNT*GENERAL_VENT_GAS_FLOW
            )↑
        ),
        (
            (
                getMaxEnergy()-getEnergy() ["You will receive a nobel prize if you understand this!"]
            )
            /
            (
                (GENERAL_MAX_ENERGY_PER_STEAM/TURBINE_MAX_BLADES ["How much blades are possible?"])
                *
                Math.min(
                    TURBINE_BLADE_COUNT,
                    TURBINE_COIL_COUNT*2 ["How many blades can be attached to the coiles?"]
                )
            )
        )
    )
    *
    (
        TURBINE_STORED_AMOUNT ["How much steam is inside?"]/TURBINE_MAX_STORED_AMOUNT ["How much steam is maximum possible inside?"]
    )
)
/
(
    Math.min(
        structure.lowerVolume ["See comment above to understand this!"]
        *
        (
            TURBINE_DISPENSER_COUNT*GENERAL_DISPENSER_GAS_FLOW
        ),
        TURBINE_VENT_COUNT*GENERAL_VENT_GAS_FLOW
    )
)
 


==Images==
==Images==

Latest revision as of 01:42, 13 March 2024

The Industrial Turbine multiblock structure is used to produce power from steam. Ideally, the steam is generated by a fission reactor directly, or by heating up water in the Thermoelectric Boiler with superheated sodium produced by a fission reactor.

Another integral use of the structure is to turn steam back into water when outfitted with Saturating Condensers, massively reducing the requirement on fresh water production by allowing you to reuse up to 100% of water.

Video Tutorials

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EgZTwCnWwA&t - EsquilãoBR Tutorial PT-BR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrwz3j--Vcs - Tutorial Made by MathewCell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHJSEUjCsyA - Tutorial Made by AidancBrady

Components

Construction Notes

  • Orientation can only be vertical.
  • Length and Width (x,z) must be equal (the base must be a square).
  • Maximum shaft height = min(2xLENGTH-5,14) [so blades don't touch sides]
  • Maximum total height = min(2xLENGTH-1,18)
  • Tank volume = LENGTH^2xROTOR_HEIGHT
  • Flow rate is determined by tank volume times dispersers (exact formula inside notes) or by vents - whichever is less. Each vent adds 32,000mB/t of flow rate, and each disperser can disperse 1,280mB/t of flow per block of interior volume.
  • Energy production = FLOWxROTOR_HEIGHTx50RF/7
  • 1 coil will support 4 blades. You'll never need more than 7 coils.
  • Interior may ONLY be pressure dispersers, coils, shaft, blades, rotational complex, saturating condensers or air.
  • Multiblock will sparkle redstone particles on final block placement, otherwise check your assembly.
  • Minimal turbine size is 5x5 base with 5 blocks high.
  • Maximum turbine size is 17x17 base with 18 blocks high.

Construction steps

  1. Build the base out of turbine casings and optional structural glass. (must be square) [the perimeter must be casings not glass]
  2. Place rotor shafts in the center, from the base to desired height.
  3. Add turbine blades to the rotor. (two for each rotor shaft)
  4. Place a rotational complex on top of the rotor.
  5. Completely fill the interior layer around the rotational complex with pressure dispersers.
  6. Place electromagnetic coils above the dispersers. They must touch the rotational complex and each other.
  7. Build the wireframe (the perimeters of the walls) out of turbine casings (you may have more empty layers above the coils to make room for more vents and condensers).
  8. Fill the walls, up to the height of the rotor, with turbine casings and/or structural glass and at least 2 turbine valves.
  9. Put in saturating condensers anywhere above the rotational complex, except in the walls or the ceiling.
  10. Fill the remaining walls and ceiling with turbine casings and/or turbine vents.

Water Cycle

By fitting the structure with saturating condensers, part of the steam will be refunded as water. This is highly helpful to maintain a net positive of water in a fission reactor system. Note that the water will be outputted from turbine vents instead of valves, and that the water is not accumulated: if nothing is connected, the condensed water simply disappears.

Flow Rate

  • The "flow rate" is really an efficiency ratio: it measures how much of your turbine's maximum output you're actually getting. It can never be larger than 1.
  • The actual maximum rate of steam flow (labeled MAX_RATE below) is limited by both the number of dispersers and the number of vents. Each vent can pass 32,000 mB/t; each disperser can disperse 1,280 mB/t *per block of interior volume*.
    • "Interior volume" -- labeled `structure.lowerVolume` below -- means the inside volume of the rotor chamber. So if your base is 11x11 and you have 4 blocks of rotor shaft, then your interior volume is 9x9x4=324 blocks, and every disperser disperses 414,720 mB/t.
  • The flow rate is the product of two numbers:
    • The fill ratio of the turbine: (volume of steam)/(maximum volume of steam)
    • The current rate of steam flow, as a fraction of MAX_RATE. Ideally this would just be 1, but you can't move more steam than is actually in your turbine -- so if (volume of steam) < MAX_RATE, you only get (volume of steam)/MAX_RATE.
  • In addition, the actual energy gained per tick is capped by the energy storage of the turbine.
  • As long as you have room to put the energy, the equation is just:
   GENERAL_DISPERSER_GAS_FLOW = 1280
   GENERAL_VENT_GAS_FLOW = 32000
   
   MAX_RATE = min(TURBINE_DISPERSER_COUNT * GENERAL_DISPERSER_GAS_FLOW * structure.lowerVolume, TURBINE_VENT_COUNT * GENERAL_VENT_GAS_FLOW)
   FLOW = min(1, TURBINE_STORED_AMOUNT / MAX_RATE) * (TURBINE_STORED_AMOUNT/TURBINE_MAX_STORED_AMOUNT) * MAX_RATE

Miscellaneous Notes

  • Compatible with oredict steam from other mods such as TE/TF/RC/MFR/Big Reactors.
  • The marking of "Limiting" on the vents stat simply means that it is not "optimal ratio". You can have fewer down to your desired steam flow rate.
  • Turbine shuts down if internal battery fills with energy. It will restart automatically though you may also vent excess steam to prevent it from shutting down. As a turbine is often a critical part of any fission reactor water cycle, it is best to secure a large power bank such as an Induction Matrix for large scale operations.

Images

Detailed interior of a 7x7x10
Main interface showing power production and steam consumption
Statistics page showing turbine construction stats


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